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Post by rosemary3 on Mar 27, 2018 16:54:41 GMT
This came in at the library faster than I expected, and I zoomed straight through it! I liked it a lot. Review whited out: There was lots about it that I loved, especially Blue. He was so sweet. His emails were adorable (Simon's not so much). I did guess who Blue was as soon as Simon thought he was cute, which happened pretty early, but I'm used to reading both mysteries and gay romance so I knew it wouldn't be the obvious one or the best friend, and that only left one person that Simon was attracted to.
I was caught up enough in the story to feel anxious for Blue ... I thought he was right when he said if Simon had wanted it to be him, he would have guessed, or at least he wouldn't have been so sure it was someone else. I think the author got too carried away with trying to stop us guessing, to have a completely happy ending there. I'm afraid Blue will get his heart broken
All in all I enjoyed this. I'd read it again. If it bashed us over the head with political correctness once or twice, I didn't mind.
From what I can see, they've changed things quite a bit in the film. Firstly the actor playing Nick is black like Abby, so Hollywood doesn't have to accept an interracial girl-boy couple as well as the gay couple. Nick is clearly not black in the book, because Atlanta's segregated residential areas mean that, as Simon says, the black kids have to spend as much time commuting in a day as he does in a week, while Nick lives around the corner from him. Then I think the story unfolds differently too. Maybe if I see the film I'll find Simon is more attracted to Blue than in the book ... hope so!
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Post by elliej84 on Mar 27, 2018 17:12:15 GMT
Well I have noticed that a few people already have their copy and are starting to review. I have therefore, decided to open the discussion thread for you lovely people. You all know what to do now, make sure to white out any spoilers. Thank you once again for your support with the book club
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Post by rosemary3 on Mar 27, 2018 18:42:50 GMT
Oops sorry I jumped the gun
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Post by elliej84 on Mar 27, 2018 18:44:07 GMT
No worries, I haven't read the whited out section so I don't know if you liked it or not
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Post by rosemary3 on Mar 28, 2018 13:13:26 GMT
Yes I did - I've edited to include that, as it doesn't seem like much of a spoiler!
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Post by adelynechan on Mar 30, 2018 20:20:22 GMT
I started this expecting it to be an April carryover but a combination of having a lot of waiting time today plus the book being a nice easy and relaxing read meant I got through it in a day. Overall it was a book that I really enjoyed (but then again, I tend to like young adult fiction): I was able to relate to many of the characters, and Simon's family was amazing in so many ways.
I tend to agree that I sort of wish that Simon had figured out earlier who Blue was - not sure about the rest of you but for me it was blatantly obvious! The author seemed to try and hide the clues of his identity e.g. by him being known as a short-form of his real name (to avoid the American president reveal I suppose) and the ambiguity around whether or not he would be going to the game but the very limited number of characters in the book meant that there really weren't many other possibilities as to who it could be. Among the other male characters: Nick was very clearly portrayed as being heterosexual from very early on, and Simon revealed that he suspected Cal way too early on for him to be the one. I was slightly worried halfway through that the author would spring a "oh Blue turned out to be this random guy that got mentioned once in the first 200 pages" which would have properly upset me, but thankfully she didn't.
The blurb on GoodReads also describes Martin as being the class clown, I'm not quite sure that I felt the same way about him. Sure, he seemed like a bit of a free spirit and a bit of a bully at times, but I didn't feel he was really class clown material. Perhaps I missed something, but apart from the blackmailing incident and the singing in the waffle house scene, there wasn't really anything else that I would have described as clown-like in any way. And those two incidents in themselves I thought stemmed more from his desire to court Abby than his actual nature of making people laugh. I did feel a bit of resentment for him on behalf of Simon when the Tumblr post went out, but when Martin subsequently tried to make amends by promising that the screenshots were deleted and in revealing how he felt when his brother came out, I got the feeling that when push comes to shove, he isn't that bad a guy after all and it was more of an emotional teenager who didn't really know how to react to news of his brother in that way and his parents behaving strangely.
All in all it was a fun ride with a group of relatively sensible teenagers, who have healthy hobbies and a strong network of friends to support them. It was so easy to root for each of them - from Leah bashing out her heart's desire on the drums to Nora's secret guitar lessons with Nick. The part of the story which was glossed through slightly, and I wish was expanded on a bit more, was the part where Leah felt left out after Nick started dating Abby. The long friendship between Nick, Simon and Leah was such an important pillar of support to all of them that I really wish they'd bashed it out properly (over a waffle and an Oreo milkshake obviously) instead of kind of just becoming friends again.
And I can't end my thoughts without expanding on what I mentioned earlier about Simon's family being amazing... the way in which his father apologised for making gay jokes, both of his parents sitting him down to let him know that they are firmly on his side, are precisely the way I would hope that all teenagers coming out would receive support. And Alice. That little ploy at the end to give Simon and Bram some time together at home was incredibly sweet, I'm not sure there are that many siblings who would look out for each other like that at that age!
I've just written my thoughts in paragraphs as they came, not quite sure what is a spoiler and what isn't so I think I'll take the lazy way out and just white out the entire chunk. Hope that others enjoyed the book as much as I did and looking forward to reading what the rest of you think of it!
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Post by rosemary3 on Mar 31, 2018 11:06:45 GMT
Totally agree, Adelyne! Did you know there's a follow-up coming called "Leah on the Offbeat" later this year
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Post by adelynechan on Mar 31, 2018 11:44:13 GMT
Totally agree, Adelyne! Did you know there's a follow-up coming called "Leah on the Offbeat" later this year Yes My copy of Simon Vs. The Homo Sapiens Agenda comes with an excerpt from the follow-up at the back. Amazon says expected in April, I can't wait! EDIT: My bad, that was the audiobook. The paper copy comes out 3rd May.
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Post by elliej84 on Apr 2, 2018 16:19:50 GMT
It took me 2 attempts to read this book, I forget how much angst there is in some YA fiction!
I liked this story, I didn't gel especially with Simon but the other characters were good. His family unit is amazing and I would like to think we were the same for my sister when she came out. The character of Martin (the blackmailer) was hard to dislike really. He was very misguided and I was quite shocked when he announced it to the whole school, but at no time was he mean or nasty. In fact I think some of the random classmates in the periphery were worse. I feel conflicted about this. So I shall read others reviews to see your thoughts. The fact that the story was not just about the coming out, that it was really just about normal teenage life, finding girlfriends/boyfriends and navigating everyday average things at school, made this book very relatable.
I shall be reading more from this author.
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Post by geminii on Apr 6, 2018 11:22:55 GMT
I will start my review by pointing out that I do not usually read any YA .. plus I finished this book within the day ..
As a whole, I must say that I enjoyed the book and the 'journey' of the main character, Simon, into discovering his emotions .. I tended to overlook all the 'cultural references' to life as a teenager in the 21st Century .. I agree with much of what has been said here already, however, where I differ, seems to be that I didn't think that it was hard hitting enough .. Martin has email addresses, access to the internet & gets Simon to put his cell no into his phone, but then doesn't use any method to apply any pressure at all .. whether he just didn't realise how far Simon would go to protect Blue, I cannot say .. These are the parts that turned what could have been a powerful and agst ridden book into a love story, essentially ..
I must confess that with such a small pool of characters, I was simply expecting Blue to be an 'enter stage left' guy that we met near the end .. if at all
Abby was a very likebale character, but again the race aspect was so subliminal .. based in Atlanta ??
With everything that seems to go on with bullying etc on Social media these days and the devastating affects it causes, I expected more .. to be angered more, disgusted even, by the homophobia portrayed .. but all that was missing from this book .. Was I expecting too much ?? Perhaps I am looking through my adult eyes, rather than the target market of teenagers ??
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Post by adelynechan on Apr 6, 2018 19:56:49 GMT
If Blue had met your expectation I would have thrown the book out the window in a rage!
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Post by elliej84 on Apr 6, 2018 20:27:12 GMT
You're correct Suzanne, I was expecting the blackmail to be worse, like full on all over social media and www. In fact it was so subtle I couldn't tell at times whether it was more in Simons imagination.
Spoiler comments above
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Post by geminii on Apr 6, 2018 21:55:37 GMT
If Blue had met your expectation I would have thrown the book out the window in a rage! Sorry .. but I just wasn't as focsed on who Blue was .. prankster, teacher, janitors son ?? We would have been told, soon enough .. I definitely considered him not even turning up for their date; to disappear silently, leaving nothing but a flashing cursor behind ..
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Post by rosemary3 on Apr 7, 2018 10:44:32 GMT
If Blue had met your expectation I would have thrown the book out the window in a rage! Me too Regarding the bullying not being as much of a factor as expected, I think that was intentional, and the author's message to teens was that it isn't as bad today as they might expect from all the stories of the past. Things have changed a lot very fast, even in the last five years, and although Atlanta is in the South, it is a big city. I was just reading about the film and apparently in that they have introduced a much more "out" and "feminine" gay character who isn't in the book at all and who does get bullied more. So Hollywood obviously isn't quite in agreement with the author on this. But I am happy that gay young people are starting to get stories that aren't all gloom and doom.
end of spoiler
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Post by natsplatt on Apr 13, 2018 8:47:04 GMT
Just sat and finished this this morning, and I totally loved it!!
I absolutely adored Simon, and Blue, so much, they were just adorable! I too and very pleased it wasn't someone random, and yes, it was very obvious that it was Bram (have I mentioned he's adorable?!) I too would have been too annoyed if it was someone else. I don't agree with the comments about him getting his heart broken though, Simon did mention he thought Bram was cute too, and honestly, being a little fickle like that is definitely in character for a teenage boy, so I forgive him! I loved most of the other characters too, his family are amazing, and Martin is just a misguided little nerd, trying to fit in, trying to find his own identity in a family that are currently obsessed with the identity of his brother, I truly believe his repentance, and that he never really meant any real harm, and the post on tumblr was a knee jerk anger reaction that he truly regretted, and I feel no animosity to him at all. The only character I didn't really feel was Leah, she was just too sharp for my taste, not that I really disliked her, I just didn't like her as much as the others! Overall though, totally adored this book, and hoping to go and see the movie now, but depends on whether the little cinema near us shows it long enough, as it's only showing whilst I'm at work this weekend, boo!!
Nat
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