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Post by geminii on Apr 20, 2020 13:23:49 GMT
With everything going crazy all around us, I can understand that joining in here may not be a priority, nor the ease of getting hold of a reasonably priced copy (I managed to sneak one out of the Library just before it shut) .. but for those who wish to add any comments, please do so below .. The whiting out of reviews / spoilers still applies ..
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Post by geminii on Apr 20, 2020 13:24:40 GMT
I finished reading this over the weekend, but I'm not ready to commit to a review yet .....
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Post by adelynechan on May 4, 2020 17:08:10 GMT
What a ride. I often complain about not being able to *get* books set a long time ago (this one was set in the 1600s!), therefore often making the “set over 200 years ago” category the hardest one for me in the 40BC, but books like these (and the other one I read this year set in a similar time in history) only goes to show that a good author can make it work. There was so much packed into this one, the major premise being the Turkish abductions on an Icelandic island. I’m not very well-versed with either Turkish or Icelandic history, so I didn’t know of this event before. Parts of the book are based on true events (and the words of the pastor at the start of each chapter are actual excerpts from his diary), though I didn't work this out until the end. Oh, and a tip for anyone who hasn’t yet read this and wants to: There’s a list of characters (in alphabetical order) at the back of the book, I found this immensely useful. Otherwise it felt to me like there were far too many people called “Jon”, and I was getting them mixed up all the time. I also wasn’t aware of the Icelandic surname convention i.e. a person’s “last name” would be (something that sounds like their father’s first name) + “sson” for a boy and “dottir” for a girl, once I’d worked that out it was far easier to follow who was who! More thoughts below, whited out for possible spoilers. I’m not sure how much of the parts where Pastor Olafur was separated from his family are based on true happenings, perhaps written after his wife’s return, but if they were the product of the author’s imagination they were indeed realistic. I have my doubts that Asta would recount to her husband, to such great detail, her relationship with the Moor... Regardless of how much was fiction and how much was based on true story, the descriptions were so vivid I could almost imagine myself being in that Algerian slave market, and it’s clear how much research has gone into writing this book. According to Wikipedia, Asta returned to Iceland 10 years after she was abducted (Olafur only spending a year away – young Jon seems remarkably grown up for a boy who would have been only about 8 years old at the time of having that final conversation with his Mamma), it certainly seemed like a lot longer for both of them in the book!
The dilemmas were very interesting to think about e.g. what would I have done in Asta’s situation when she was given the opportunity to be ransomed and allowed to go home – although this comes at a cost of leaving her son behind. This would essentially not be an issue in today’s world (even an era prior to the Internet, when it was reasonably possible to travel the globe without risking death or taking absolutely years to get from one country to another), as essentially it was a decision that she wouldn’t ever get to reverse in a lifetime. I’m slightly surprised she made the decision that she did. I can’t help feeling in the “after her return” chapters that she regretted choosing this path, although she seems to find peace with it towards the end. This part of the book also had more of the mythical/elf bits, which I didn’t quite get (overall). A bit of a pity, I sort of wish I could appreciate this Icelandic custom a bit more (and indeed better understand the title of the book!).
One thing I particularly liked was the way in which Magnusson painted the slave masters themselves as having very different characters – and portraying the notion that not all of them are complete monsters. While there are some (like the pasha is implied to be) who presumably abuse their slaves in different ways, others are just family men in themselves who happen to find themselves in a position of privilege. The fact that there are many former slaves who are free men or women in the Algiers is testament to the fact, I feel, that there is a genuine attempt among certain slave-masters to help them into a position of freedom.
I suppose the other major talking point in this one, is the Christian/Muslim divide. I never really expected the children to grow up anything but Muslim, Asta in particular seems wistful about this point (and herself vehemently refuses to convert in exchange for what would certainly have been a better life, married to a man that she clearly has feelings for), but especially Jon would have known nothing different. He was far too young to be aware of his father’s profession as a pastor, and a boy at that age would understandably want to fit in with his peers. Thank you pennylane for choosing this one for the book club. I would never have picked it up on my own (I don’t even know which section in my favourite bookstore I might expect to find it!), and it turned out to be an interesting lesson in history of two parts of the world that I know close to nothing about, and how religion plays into the picture. Amidst all the family drama, of course, which always makes for a good plot.
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Post by pennylane on May 5, 2020 19:42:08 GMT
What a ride. I often complain about not being able to *get* books set a long time ago (this one was set in the 1600s!), therefore often making the “set over 200 years ago” category the hardest one for me in the 40BC, but books like these (and the other one I read this year set in a similar time in history) only goes to show that a good author can make it work. There was so much packed into this one, the major premise being the Turkish abductions on an Icelandic island. I’m not very well-versed with either Turkish or Icelandic history, so I didn’t know of this event before. Parts of the book are based on true events (and the words of the pastor at the start of each chapter are actual excerpts from his diary), though I didn't work this out until the end. Thank you pennylane for choosing this one for the book club. I would never have picked it up on my own (I don’t even know which section in my favourite bookstore I might expect to find it!), and it turned out to be an interesting lesson in history of two parts of the world that I know close to nothing about, and how religion plays into the picture. Amidst all the family drama, of course, which always makes for a good plot. Glad you enjoyed Adelyne, I've wanted to read it for a while and I've alsoo found that I've been reading more and more historical books over the last few years and some of them have become favourites.
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Post by janetandjohn on Jul 6, 2020 7:10:56 GMT
We're at the end of the quarter, but only one set of thoughts? geminii ? You forgot!! Anyone else?? Here's mine.
This was a book that I would not have picked myself. But now I've read it, I would recommend it - cracking story (based on a real life event); well written; story moves on well. I found it harsh but fascinating - what happens to the people taken as slaves from Iceland to Algeria.
The story is really about Asta, who with her pastor husband and children, lives on a small island off the south coast of Iceland. A hard life is an understatement, but God will reward them in the next life. Hmmmm - but he's not doing much for them in this one. In 1627, 400 or so of the population are stolen in a pirate raid and taken to Algeria. At the slave market, the entire family are sold to one buyer, a rich man who has power in the city, and after a week the pastor is sent back to Denmark (who ruled Iceland at that time) to plead for a ransom. In today's "instant" world, we find it astounding that it took him years to achieve the desired result, and certainly not with money from the Danish crown.
In the meantime, Asta's oldest son has gone to be a slave somewhere else, and her two youngest are taught to read Arabic and to study the Koran. And she knows that eventually they will be gone and she will be alone. And then the slave owner who is a member of Algiers' ruling council requests that she is brought to him...... and like Sherherazade, she offers stories.... Icelantic sagas.
For Asta, this is a life so different, so strange, but so luxurious. She is used to wearing handwoven cloth. Used to smelling of whatever is cooking in the house today. Used to catching birds for food. Used to not washing for days. I could smell her, back there in Iceland. And then she finds herself in a place where there is running water, sunshine, pretty clothes, rosewater and polite conversations. Never to go outside in the rain and come home with those handwoven clothes sodden. Never again to have to catch and kill puffins for food. There is a chance she could stay after the ransome is paid.
I didn't think it was a high price to pay, and wanted her to stay on in Algiers. After all her husband was gone - could even be dead and it had been 9 years; her oldest son was gone, her daughter would soon find herself in the harem of the ruler of Algeria, and her youngest son would soon be a servant. She would probably never seen any of the children again, but at least she would be in the same country. Her choice, and at the very last minute, was to leave and I was so sad for her. When she arrived back in her home country she was stunned, and sad for herself. Horrible, those huge life choices, aren't they?
Slavery. It's always happened, it always will happen. This is just an illustration of a small part of history. I found out a lot about how the Mediterranian was awash with people stealing other people at that time.
If you like historical fiction, this is absolutely worth the read. Recommended.
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Post by pennylane on Jul 7, 2020 21:33:53 GMT
I have been reading more and more historical novels over the last few years and this is one in which the story was completely unknown to me. I really enjoyed the descriptive writing and the tales of mainly women and children slaves in Algiers in the 1600's. The fact that is based on a true story and the diary of Lutherian minister Ólafur Egilsson who was captured along with his wife and three children makes it all the more fascinating. I've blanked out a few thoughts below.
I like others it seems found her final decision a little surprising thinking she may stay in Algiers to be close to her children even if she never got to see them again she could have become a free woman in time and so could they. Her life there was so much easier than the harsh, cold life in Iceland with better climate, food and living conditions even though a slave. She wasn't even aware if her husband was still alive nine years later, him being that much older than her already and no news had come during all that time.
An interesting story and I am glad I finally got around to reading it.
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